Move to Gwynedd According to
Old Welsh tradition contained in section 62 of the
Historia Brittonum, Cunedda came from
Manaw Gododdin, the modern
Falkirk region of
Scotland: Maelgwn, the great king, was reigning among the Britons in the region of Gwynedd, for his ancestor, Cunedag, with his sons, whose number was eight, had come previously from the northern part, that is from the region which is called Manaw Gododdin, one hundred and forty-six years before Maelgwn reigned. And with great slaughter, they drove out from those regions the Scotti who never returned again to inhabit them. Cunedda and his forebears led the Votadini against
Pictish and Irish incursions south of
Hadrian's Wall. Sometime after this, the
Votadini troops under Cunedda relocated to
North Wales to defend the region from Irish invasion, specifically the
Uí Liatháin, as mentioned in the
Historia Brittonum. Cunedda established himself in Wales, in the territory of the
Venedoti, which would become the centre of the
Kingdom of Gwynedd. Two explanations for these actions have been suggested: either Cunedda was acting under the orders of
Magnus Maximus (or Maximus' successors) or
Vortigern, the high king of the British in the immediate post-Roman era. The range of dates (suggested by Oxford genealogist
Peter Bartrum) runs from the late 370s, which would favour Maximus, to the late 440s, which would favour Vortigern. , Cunedda and his family commanded the
Votadini between its wall and
Antonine Wall, located at the edge of England and Scotland. The suggestion that Cunedda was operating under instructions from
Rome has been challenged by several historians.
David Dumville dismisses the whole concept of transplanting
foederati from
Scotland to Wales in this manner, given that the political state of sub-Roman Britain would probably have made it impossible to exercise such centralised control by the 5th century. As
Maximus himself was dead by the end of 388, and
Constantine III departed from Britain with the last of Rome's military forces in 407, less than a generation later, it is doubtful that Rome had much direct influence over the military actions of the Votadini, either through Maximus or any other emissary, for any significant length of time. Magnus Maximus (or his successors) may have handed over control of the British frontiers to local chieftains at an earlier date; with the evacuation of the fort at
Chester (which
Mike Ashley, incidentally, argues is most likely where Cunedda established his initial base in the region, some years later) in the 370s, he may have had little option. Given that the archaeological record demonstrates Irish settlement on the
Llŷn Peninsula however and possible raids as far west as
Wroxeter by the late 4th century, it is difficult to conceive of either Roman or allied British forces having presented an effective defence in Wales. Academics such as
Sheppard Frere have argued that it may have been Vortigern who, adopting elements of Roman statecraft, moved the Votadini south, just as he invited
Saxon settlers to protect other parts of the island. According to this version of events, Vortigern would have instructed Cunedda and his Votadini subjects to move to Wales in response to the aforementioned Irish incursions no later than the year 442, when Vortigern's former Saxon allies rebelled against his rule. Some historians even suggest that Cunedda never even moved to North Wales and simply died while fighting the Picts, and
Nennius's claims about Cunedda are just simply propaganda for the Kingdom of Gwynedd. Based on the fact that despite Nennius saying Cunedda "drove out the Irish with great slaughter and that they never returned" it is not entirely true as there was heavy Irish presence among the southern Welsh Kingdoms and
Anglesey even in the 6th century.
Life and succession , father-in-law of Cunedda Of Cunedda personally even less is known. Probably celebrated for his strength, courage, and ability to rally the beleaguered
Romano-British forces of the region, he eventually secured a politically advantageous marriage to Gwawl, daughter of King
Coel Hen, the Romano-British ruler of
Eboracum (modern
York) appointed by
Magnus Maximus, and is claimed to have had nine sons. The early kingdoms of
Ceredigion and
Meirionnydd were supposedly named after his two sons King
Ceredig and King
Meirion. Cunedda's supposed great-grandson
Maelgwn Gwynedd was a contemporary of
Gildas, and according to the
Annales Cambriae died in 547. The reliability of early Welsh genealogies is not uncontested however, and many of the claims regarding the number and identity of Cunedda's heirs did not surface until as late as the 10th century. Nonetheless, if we accept this information as valid, calculating back from this date suggests the mid-5th century interpretation. == Allt Cunedda ==