Berton left the
Star in 1962 to commence
The Pierre Berton Show, which ran until 1973. where he wrote that he would not object if his teenage daughters engaged in premarital sex, saying he hoped that they had enough wisdom to use a comfortable bed instead of a dingy backseat of a car. In 1963, Berton received death threats when an episode about the
Front de libération du Québec (FLQ) aired on
The Pierre Berton Show. The show featured an interview with Sergeant Walter "Rocky" Leja of the Canadian Army, who had been badly injured when he attempted to dismantle a bomb planted by the FLQ in Montreal. The same episode featured an interview with
Pierre Trudeau, at the time a law professor at the Université de Montréal. In his interview with Berton, Trudeau stated that Quebec had received a "raw deal" from the rest of Canada, but went on to denounce Quebec separatism. Trudeau stated that the FLQ's claims that Quebec's situation was analogous to
Algeria under French rule (with the FLQ playing the same role as the
FLN) was nonsense; he said that French-Canadians like himself had nothing remotely like the status of Algerian Muslims under French rule. Trudeau stated that if Quebec became independent, it would be a "banana republic". Berton's interview with Trudeau is credited with first introducing him to an English-Canadian audience. Berton was able to persuade famous people to appear on his television show; in September 1964, during a visit to London, Berton interviewed the philosopher
Bertrand Russell, the actress
Vivien Leigh, the singer
Noël Coward and the actor
Douglas Fairbanks Jr. In November 1964, Berton devoted an episode of his show to the youth culture of Britain, which had attracted worldwide attention following the success of the
Beatles. In the episode, Berton unknowingly scored a
scoop when he interviewed
Mick Jagger and the other members of the newly-formed
Rolling Stones. When Berton asked Jagger about the charge that he was a bad influence on young people, he replied, "I don't feel morally responsible for anyone". The episode was credited with helping to popularize hairstyles and clothing associated with the mods and rockers, the two major sub-cultures within British culture at the time. In 1964, an episode of
The Pierre Berton Show attracted national controversy when Berton examined the subject of homosexuality, which was illegal in Canada at the time. Berton interviewed several American homosexuals (no Canadian gays were willing to appear on the show) about their lifestyles, but the CBC would not air the episode again after receiving a flood of complaints. Like many journalists, Berton was interested in the "Banks affair", concerning an American gangster,
Hal C. Banks, who, with the support of the Canadian government, had been allowed to take over the Communist-dominated
Seafarers International Union in 1949. The way that Banks had operated as a sort of state-sanctioned criminal who had been allowed to engage in many acts of violence was immensely controversial. In an episode aired on 22 November 1964, Berton pressed Prime Minister
Lester B. Pearson about the Banks affair, leading Pearson to admit that Banks had been a major campaign donor to the Liberal Party in the 1950s, which Pearson had denied up until that time. Starting in December 1964, Berton started to broadcast a Christmas special on his TV show from his home in Kleinburg, covering his family's celebration of Christmas. In 1965, Berton published a best-selling book,
The Comfortable Pew, which was quite critical of the Anglican Church, whose teachings Berton condemned as sanctimonious, conformist, submissive to power, and hypocritical with respect to sexuality and other social issues. Within weeks of its publication, the book's first print run of 100,000 copies sold out, making Berton about $25,000. At the time, the Church of England was one of the leading social institutions in English-Canadian society, and the book produced a storm of controversy as Berton urged church leaders to accept birth control, premarital sex and homosexuality. Berton called for the Anglican Church to accept what he called "real Christian love, in all its flexibility, with all of its concern for real people rather than for any fixed set of principles". The controversy caused by
The Comfortable Pew made Berton an ubiquitous figure in Canadian media, leading the columnist Denis Braithwaite to complain in
The Globe & Mail that Canadians were now living in the "Berton era". Braithwaite wrote: "Virtually every media outlet is preoccupied with Pierre Berton and his new book. We get Berton in the morning and Berton at night. He is in the book section, the religion section, the TV section of our daily newspapers; he is the subject of feature articles and gossipy items in the national magazines; he is interviewed by every disc jockey, advice to the housewife dispenser, numerologist and pitchmen on every radio station in the land; he is on every television program, on every Canadian television channel, not just once in a while or two or three times a day, but all day, everyday-or so it seems. Our children lisp his name, our teenagers take his advice on sex; our wives curtsey to his image". In the 1960s, Berton was a leading member of the Sordsmen's Club , a group of Toronto intellectuals and businessmen who met for expensive lunches with women who were not their wives, and who were forbidden to attend its meetings unless their husband was not present. Other members included
Jack McCllelland,
John C. Parkin,
Harold Town, George Fryer, Chuck Rathgreb,
Arthur Hailey, and
Ralph McCreath. Women who attended the lunches included the columnist Nancy Philips; the journalist
Adrienne Clarkson; the singer Dinah Carroll; the journalist Barbara Moon; Joan Taylor, the wife of a sports journalist; the broadcaster Joan McCormack; and the art gallery owner
Dorothy Cameron. About the club, Philips said in 1986: "We had an idea that we shouldn't go home alone, let's put it that way". A later controversy developed when it emerged that at end of the lunches, which typically occurred on a Friday afternoon and lasted five hours, each man stood behind a woman of his choosing with whom he expected to have sex. In 1968, Berton became concerned that his books dealing with contemporary issues would become dated and forgotten with the passage of time. He noted that
Klondike, his account of the Klondike gold rush of the 1890s, had a more timeless quality since it covered a subject that would not become dated, and indeed was the subject of enduring popular fascination. At the same time, he noted that with the notable exceptions of
Donald Creighton and
W. L. Morton, Canada had no story-teller historians who wrote popular and accessible narratives of Canadian history. For reasons of pride and Canadian nationalism, Berton set out to become a story-teller historian who would write books for a mass audience. For his first book, his subject was the building of the
Canadian Pacific Railway (CPR) in the 19th century, which he intended as a national epic. Berton wanted to give the struggle to build the CPR a role analogous to that of the Revolutionary War in American memory, as the founding national epic. In this regard, Berton acknowledged the importance of Confederation in 1867, but argued that Canada did not truly become a nation until the CPR was completed in 1885. Berton defined the building of the railroad as a struggle of man against nature, seeing it as a triumph of human ingenuity and willpower, as the builders defeated the harsh landscape of northern Ontario, the seemingly endless Prairies, and the imposing Rocky Mountains. In the spring of 1968, Berton began his research for his railroad saga, which became
The National Dream and
The Last Spike. Before the 1960s, the major divisions in English-Canadian society were between continentalism (i.e., moving Canada closer to the United States), associated with the Liberal Party, and imperialism (which in a Canadian context meant closer ties with Great Britain), associated with the Conservative party. The 1960s saw the emergence of the "new nationalism" that rejected both continentalism and imperialism as options. Berton became one of the principle spokesmen for this new nationalism, as he argued that Canada could stand alone as a great nation.
The Pierre Berton Show was a popular television show owing to famous guests from Canada and around the world. In the 1968–1969 season, Berton interviewed from the United States the burlesque entertainer
Gypsy Rose Lee, the actress
Sharon Tate, the pornographer
Bob Guccione, the "playmate novelist"
Alice Denham, the actor
Charlton Heston, and Rachel Jones (an airline stewardess who was presented at the time as one of the co-authors of the bestselling 1967 pseudo-memoir
Coffee, Tea or Me? detailing her supposed erotic history). That season, Canadian guests included the singer
Neil Young, Montreal mayor
Jean Drapeau, the journalist
Laurier LaPierre, the columnist
Peter C. Newman and the feminist activist
June Callwood. In early 1969, Berton's show aired a five-part series called
The Indian Revolution, about the emerging Red Power movement. One of the episodes,
The Rape of the Languages, featured an early expose of the
residential schools. Berton interviewed several First Nations people in support of his thesis that indigenous peoples had been "beaten, starved, and otherwise punished by church and federal schools". The choice of guests and themes that season reflected what had become the show's main focus, namely a mixture of "celebrities, sex, and social justice". In July 1969, Berton had the telephone removed from his house in Kleinburg, and claimed he was leaving for Mexico. He spent the summer of 1969 writing his railroad epic, which came to be divided into two volumes owing to its length with his work finally being finished in December 1969. In 1971, Berton interviewed
Bruce Lee, the famous martial artist's only surviving television interview. Berton's television career included spots as host and writer on
My Country,
The Great Debate,
Heritage Theatre,
The Secret of My Success and
The National Dream. From 1966 to 1983, Berton and long-time collaborator
Charles Templeton made the daily syndicated radio debate show
Dialogue, based first at
CFRB and later at
CKEY. Berton came to be Canada's best-known intellectual. His biographer,
Brian McKillop wrote: "No one in Canada or for that matter in North America, managed to take hold of the full range of the mainstream media with the same kind of commanding presence and authority. One searches in vain for an American or British equivalent. It is if he somehow carried the DNA of
Edward R. Murrow and
Jack Paar,
Vance Packard and
Michael Harrington,
Bernard DeVoto and
Studs Terkel, with more than a little
Garrison Keillor in the mix. Each of these figures—a war correspondent who spoke truth to power; a host of the most watched and enduring television interview program of its era; a muckraking journalist in the age of the consumer; a left-wing critic of North American society; a popular and respected historian of nation and empire in North America; a collector of the kind of folklore that serves as the first draft of history; a folksy, story-telling humorist of nostalgic bent—was or is a man of exceptional accomplishment in his own area. The magnitude of Berton's achievement was that he spanned them all and become more than their sum". ==Historian==