Fogge married firstly, by the early 1440s, Alice de Criol or Kyriell, daughter of the
Yorkist soldier
Sir Thomas de Criol of
Westenhanger, beheaded after the
Second Battle of St. Albans by order of
Margaret of Anjou. The marriage brought him
Westenhanger Castle. Alice de Criol or Kyriell died between February 1462 when she was amongst those endowing two chaplains to pray for her father and others slain at Northampton, St. Albans and Shirebum, His only son, "Slayn at
Guinse," as said in an old MS.), a maid of honour to
Queen Katherine of Aragon. She married Anthony Lowe (d.1555 It has been suggested that Bridget was the "Mother Lowe" who was
Mother of the Maids under
Anne of Cleves. • Daughter whose name is not given in the Fogge pedigree, Lettice. John Fogge married secondly, between February 1462 (when his first wife was alive)) of
Bishopsbourne, Kent, and Joan Woodville, daughter of Richard Woodville. Richard Woodville was also the father of
Richard Woodville, 1st Earl Rivers, and the grandfather of
Elizabeth Woodville, and Fogge's second wife, Alice Haute was thus Elizabeth Woodville's first cousin. After her marriage to
Edward IV,
Elizabeth Woodville brought her favourite female relatives to court. Fogge's second wife, Alice Haute, was one of her five ladies-in-waiting during the 1460s. By Alice Haute, Fogge had two sons and four daughters: • William Fogge, died as a child. Eleanor married secondly Sir William Kempe of
Ollantigh. As a widow, she was a gentlewoman in the household of
Mary I of England, and died on 16 September 1559. •
Joan Fogge, The perhaps most likely explanation is that as a married woman Joan and her husband had already received her
dowry. Anne, Joan's eldest daughter, was born in 1490, which might indicate a recent marriage. Joan might have been of about the same age as the three daughters mentioned in Sir John Fogge's will who were all unmarried and left sums towards their dowries and to the 'Governance and Guiding' of his wife Alice. In the
Family Chronicle of Richard Fogge of Danes Court in Tilmanstone, it is mentioned in the Fogge family pedigree that
Sir John Fogge had four daughters, although only three were mentioned by name so it is likely that the unspecified daughter is Joan. And the
Widville pedigree, taken in 1480–1500, tells us that
Iohanna nupta domino Thome Greene militi. This
Iohanna was the daughter of
Alicia nupta domino Iohanni Fogge militi. And this Alicia was the daughter of
Willelmus Hault armiger by a lady
Wideuille, to be more specific, the daughter of
Ricardus Wideuille armiger and a
filia de Bedelsgate. Joan was their eldest daughter, born between William who died as a child and Thomas. Like her sister Margaret, Joan also married her father's ward. Sir John Fogge (d. 1490) might also have had another daughter not mentioned in his will, the mother of his 'nephew' (likely grandson, the word could be used also in that sense then) John ffoughler (possibly John Fuller or John Fowler), who was to inherit if his eldest son John Fogge perished without heirs. This could indicate that this daughter was also from his first marriage. His sentimental bequests were all reserved for his two surviving sons and his wife Alice, though Gillian Draper leaves room for the possibility that he intended for a mass book to pass to one of his daughters:Sir John Fogge had a private chapel at the manor house of Repton as well as the Fogge chapel in Ashford church. His bequests of the ecclesiastical equipment used at the chapel at the house reveal aspects of life at the manor and the way in which he considered that equipment to be both family possessions and dedicated to service in the chapel. Fogge left his wife Alice a vestment of velvet, a mass book which she was to choose from the two in the chapel, two basins of silver for the altar, a cross and two cruets all of silver and gilt, and a gilt sacring bell. Alice was to keep all of these for her whole life and most of them – apart from the velvet vestment and the mass book – were then to pass to Fogge's son John or his heirs with the intention that they should remain for the use of the chapel at Repton. The velvet vestment could have been considered a personal item with which Alice may have had some involvement, say in its embroidery, or something she might convert for her own wear, and thus unsuitable to pass on. The fact that Alice was to choose the mass book and keep it for her whole life but that it would then not pass to Fogge's son suggests two things: firstly, that she was literate, and secondly that she might herself bequeath the book to whomever she chose, perhaps a daughter, since mothers were the earliest teachers of children, both girls and boys. Sacred books were very important since the 'dynamic of literacy was religion', although parents such as the Fogges also required their children to learn pragmatic literacy for letter-writing and estate management. Eastern Kent, where the Fogges lived and held lands and manors, was an area of extensive literacy mainly because of the proximity of the Cinque Ports with their early traditions of civic record-keeping. Apart from a special decorated 'Standyng Cuppe of gilt' which Sir John bequeathed to John junior, Dame Alice was to receive all the rest of the domestic goods and chattels at Repton to keep or give away as she chose. == Tilting helmet ==