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Joker: Folie à Deux

Joker: Folie à Deux is a 2024 American jukebox musical legal drama film directed by Todd Phillips from a screenplay he co-wrote with Scott Silver. Based on DC Comics characters, it is the sequel to Joker (2019). Joaquin Phoenix stars as Arthur Fleck / Joker, reprising his role from the first film, alongside Lady Gaga as Harleen "Lee" Quinzel. The main cast includes Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener and Zazie Beetz, with supporting appearances from Steve Coogan, Harry Lawtey, Leigh Gill and Connor Storrie. In the film, while awaiting trial for his crimes at Arkham State Hospital, Arthur develops a romantic relationship with fellow inmate Lee. As the trial begins, he questions his path when he realizes Lee and others only see him as Joker.

Plot
In an animated short titled "Me and My Shadow", the Joker is impersonated by his shadow, who acts violently and takes his place to perform a musical number for a TV show, then merges back together with the Joker before three police officers arrive and attack him. Arthur Fleck is in custody at Arkham State Hospital awaiting trial for the crimes he committed two years prior. His lawyer Maryanne Stewart plans to argue that Arthur suffers from dissociative identity disorder and that his Joker personality is responsible for the crimes. At a music therapy session, Arthur meets Harleen "Lee" Quinzel, who claims that she grew up in the same neighborhood he did, had an abusive father who died in a car crash, and was imprisoned after burning down her parents' apartment building. Lee also expresses her admiration for Joker's crimes and personality. As their relationship develops, they begin imagining life as a stage musical with them in the spotlight through their linked insanity. During a film screening, Lee starts a fire. She and Arthur are caught trying to escape, and Arthur is placed in solitary confinement. Lee visits him to say she is being released to prevent him from influencing her, but promises to attend his trial. They have sex before she leaves. During an interview with a television personality, Arthur sings to Lee through the TV screen, deepening her love for him. On the day of the trial, Assistant District Attorney Harvey Dent calls witnesses who dismiss Arthur's claims of insanity, including his old neighbor Sophie Dumond. During a break, Maryanne reveals that Lee was actually a psychiatry student who grew up on the Upper West Side, and her father, a doctor, is alive. Furthermore, she voluntarily committed herself at Arkham, checked herself out, and never burned down an apartment building. When Arthur confronts Lee, she confesses that her lies were an effort to get close to Arthur but also claims that she is pregnant from their night together and has moved into his old apartment building to create a home for them. Afterwards, he imagines a scenario where they are singing on television before she shoots him dead. At the trial the next day, Arthur dismisses Maryanne and represents himself. After bringing Arthur's former co-worker Gary Puddles to the stand, Harvey rests his case. Visibly affected by Gary's testimony, Arthur offers no defense. During his speech, he mocks the Arkham guards and indicates that they abuse him. Returning to Arkham, he is taken to the showers by head guard Jackie Sullivan and two guards in retaliation, where he is beaten. An inmate and friend of Arthur's named Ricky verbally confronts the guards, resulting in Jackie garroting him to death. The event visibly devastates Arthur. During his closing argument in court the following day, Arthur renounces his Joker persona, taking full responsibility for his actions. Enraged at this, Lee walks out, and the jury finds Arthur guilty of murder. As the foreperson reads the verdict, a bomb explodes outside the courthouse, killing and injuring numerous attendees and scarring half of Harvey's face. In the chaos, two followers help Arthur escape, but he abandons them when he realizes they only see him as Joker. Arthur wanders through Gotham City and encounters Lee on the stairs outside his old apartment, but she rejects him for renouncing his Joker persona. As she leaves, the police apprehend Arthur and bring him back to Arkham. The next day, a guard directs Arthur down an empty hallway to meet a visitor. A young inmate stops Arthur and begins telling a joke before repeatedly stabbing Arthur in the abdomen with a shank. As Arthur falls to the floor and bleeds to death, he revisits the scenario of Lee shooting him, while the inmate, laughing hysterically, carves a smile on his own face. ==Cast==
Cast
Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck / Joker, a mentally ill nihilistic criminal with a clown-inspired persona, formerly an impoverished party clown and aspiring stand-up comedian. Director Todd Phillips said that while the film would venture further into Arthur's psyche, he would not become the "Clown Prince of Crime", as his Joker persona is an unwilling symbol to people who give him the love he always wanted. • Lady Gaga as Harleen "Lee" Quinzel, a patient at Arkham State Hospital who becomes obsessed with Arthur and forms a romantic relationship with him. Describing Lee, Phillips noted how this version of the character is manipulative, amoral and "more grounded", with the film deliberately ignoring much of the character's classic mannerisms and style to fit into the world created in Joker (2019). Gaga felt Lee to be a "study of contradictions", as her love and obsession for Arthur is also admiration and disgust, being both truthful and dishonest, really dangerous yet completely peaceful, deeming Lee a "very nonlinear person" like everyone involved in storytelling and thinking she was the "more real" the "more she could be a contradiction". • Brendan Gleeson as Jackie Sullivan, an abusive guard at Arkham State Hospital. • Catherine Keener as Maryanne Stewart, Arthur's lawyer. • Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond, a single mother and Arthur's former neighbor, with whom Arthur imagined being in a romantic relationship in the first film. She confirms here that Arthur never threatened her or her daughter, after the abrupt end to her appearance in the original had led many fans to assume he had killed one or both of them offscreen. • Steve Coogan as Paddy Meyers, a popular TV personality who interviews Arthur in Arkham. Lawtey avoided watching previous screen portrayals of Harvey Dent and instead developed his own backstory for the character, with Phillips instilling in him the idea that, in the dawn of televised trials, Dent is cynically willing to put Arthur on trial for his own gain. Phillips confirmed that one of the film's shots meant to signal the character's eventual descent into his Two-Face persona from the source material, affirming that he and his crew tried to come up with a realistic answer as to why certain things happen. • Leigh Gill as Gary Puddles, Arthur's former clown co-worker whose life he spared; his testimonial anguish over seeing Arthur murder Randall is the main impetus towards Arthur's actions at the end of his trial. • Ken Leung as Dr. Victor Liu, a psychologist who gives his testimony diagnosing Arthur at the trial. • Jacob Lofland as Ricky Meline, an inmate at Arkham who admires Arthur. • Bill Smitrovich as Judge Herman Rothwax, a judge who presides over Arthur's trial. • Sharon Washington as Debra Kane, Arthur's former social worker. Additionally, Connor Storrie appears as a young Arkham inmate who spies on Arthur throughout the film before murdering him and is implied to become the next Joker, though Phillips did not confirm if this character is the Joker who becomes Batman's archenemy. Tim Dillon appears as an Arkham Asylum guard who asks Arthur to sign his book; Marc Maron's likeness as Gene Ufland is used for the book. Nick Cave is heard in the film's opening animated sequence as the singing voice of Joker's shadow. Archive footage from Joker of both Robert De Niro as Murray Franklin and Frances Conroy as Penny Fleck is used. ==Production==
Production
Development Joker (2019) was intended to be a standalone film. Warner Bros. intended for it to launch DC Black, a line of DC Comics–based films unrelated to the DC Extended Universe (DCEU) franchise with darker, more experimental material, similar to the DC Black Label comics publisher. However, even before the film wrapped, Joaquin Phoenix told director Todd Phillips that he did not feel ready to leave Arthur Fleck behind; one night while falling asleep, Phoenix had a dream of his character performing onstage, telling jokes and singing, giving him the idea of possibly doing a musical sequel. Phillips said in August 2019 that he would be interested in making a sequel, depending on the film's performance and if Phoenix was interested, but he later clarified that "the movie's not set up to [have] a sequel. We always pitched it as one movie, and that's it". In October 2019, Phoenix spoke of reprising his role as Arthur Fleck, saying: "I can't stop thinking about it... if there's something else, we can do with Joker that might be interesting". In another interview, he said: "It's nothing that I really wanted to do prior to working on this movie. I don't know that there is [more to do] ... Because it seemed endless, the possibilities of where we can go with the character". He was paid $20million for his involvement. As the film went on to earn more than $1 billion, Phoenix and Phillips thought about a possible follow-up in the form of a Broadway theatre show. They did not consider making a conventional sequel depicting Arthur's development into Batman's nemesis by turning him into the Clown Prince of Crime or putting him in charge of a criminal syndicate, regardless of the original film depicting the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents. Phillips preferred to focus on how Arthur's breakdown captivated Gotham, being interested in examining how the very idea of entertainment went from movies and television to whatever scandal the news currently air. However, Deadline Hollywood reported the same day that The Hollywood Reporters story was false and that negotiations had not even begun. Phillips responded to the reports by saying that he had discussed a sequel with Warner Bros., and it remained a possibility, but it was not in development. Phillips and Phoenix started seriously considering the idea of making a Broadway sequel show to Joker at the Carlisle Theatre. After the original plans were changed by the COVID-19 pandemic, Phillips and Silver began developing a sequel film while still considering Phoenix's musical concept. Phillips found the idea risky and "dangerous" enough to give the film "audacity and complexity" with music, dance, drama, courtroom drama, comedy, happiness and sadness and a traditional love story. Aware that young moviegoers may not be interested due to preferring usual comic book films, Phillips banked on their "appetite" for something new and different to help the film differentiate itself from remakes and reboots. Phoenix suggested the idea of teaming Arthur with a "female Joker" that could serve as his dance partner in a "kind of psychotic tango". This led Phillips and Silver to the idea of including Harley Quinn, a female villain associated with the Joker and first introduced in the DC Animated Universe (DCAU) show Batman: The Animated Series (1992-1995), to serve that purpose. By February 2023, DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn confirmed that Folie à Deux would be a DC Elseworlds project, taking place outside the main cinematic DC Universe (DCU). Phillips's goal for the film was to make it feel like it had been produced by "crazy people", but struggled with referring to the film as a "musical", as the film lacks traditional musical numbers, and most of the music contains dialogue, with songs like "Get Happy", "For Once in My Life", and "That's Life" being played when Arthur cannot pronounce the words he wants to say, with those songs conveying the emotions Arthur Fleck and Harley Quinn feel with what they seek in their relationships, with the former being drawn to romantic ballads and the latter preferring music about power. Phillips did not require them to sing professionally, preferring a "rawer, more unstable sound" that fluctuated between euphoria and despair, which occasionally required singing off-key. The filmmakers asked themselves what needed to happen for two individuals to break into song in the middle of a conversation and where the music could come from when no one but the protagonists can hear it. They rationalized that the main characters are not, or should sound like, professional singers with vibrato and perfect notes, instead sounding "nerve-racking but honest". Gaga accepted the role seeing the part as a new challenge that she had not done previously in either A Star is Born (2018) or House of Gucci (2021), as well as recognizing the similarities between the film's focus on identity and duality and her own experience having a second life in her celebrity singer persona. She received $12million for her involvement. In August 2022, it was reported Zazie Beetz was in negotiations to reprise her role as Sophie Dumond in the film. Beetz was confirmed to be reprising her role the following month, alongside the cast additions of Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener and Jacob Lofland. In October, Harry Lawtey joined the cast in what Deadline Hollywood reported as a "big role", Filming s and props) was a filming location for Arkham State Hospital. Principal photography began on December 10, 2022, with Phillips releasing a first look on his Instagram account and Lawrence Sher serving as cinematographer. Sher had cited Francis Ford Coppola's One from the Heart (1982) as a source of visual inspiration for the film. Exterior filming occurred in New York City and Los Angeles by March 2023. Gaga had filmed scenes with a crowd of extras demanding Joker's arrest outside the New York County Courthouse, which had led some onlookers nearby to mistake it for Trump's arrest following his first indictment. Arkham Asylum scenes were filmed at the abandoned Essex County Isolation Hospital in Belleville, New Jersey. In April 2023, filming took place at the "Joker Stairs", the stairway on West 167th Street in the Bronx featured prominently in the first film. Filming officially wrapped on April 5, 2023. The film is shot entirely with IMAX-certified digital cameras, including the Arri Alexa 65, the same camera used to film Joker. Unlike many musicals that have actors sing along to a pre-recorded track, Phoenix and Gaga performed the musical numbers live, accompanied by a piano player who performed off-camera keeping up with whatever tempo they established. Meanwhile, Phillips tried to sync the radically different takes into a coherent whole in the editing room, describing the experience as a "nightmare". Post-production In December 2023, Gunn revealed he reviewed shot material and gave his notes regarding it, but had no involvement with the film otherwise. It was later reported that his and Peter Safran's notes were rejected by Philips, who "wanted nothing to do with DC" while making the film. He was also given an extraordinary level of autonomy and power over the final cut, allowing him to bypass any oversight from the brand's gatekeepers and distancing himself from it though Gunn supported the film. This resulted in no DC executives being involved as the film was greenlit when the studio was in a chaotic restructure and the lack of the DC Studios logo in the film's opening sequence (Gunn later claimed the reason for the omitted logo was that the film, in his opinion, was considered by the creators to be more of a production of Warner Bros. than an outright DC film; he would go so far as to admit it was "not a DC Studios film" in that regard). The film was also not test screened in advance, though insiders claimed this was a mutual agreement between Phillips and the studio to prevent leaks about spoilers, even though past "spoiler-heavy plotted" films like the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) film Avengers: Endgame (2019) had multiple test screenings. ==Music==
Music
Hildur Guðnadóttir composed the film's score, returning from the first film. The film includes 16 musical numbers, most of them covers of pre-existing songs, with one original song written by Lady Gaga. She released a "companion album", Harlequin, on September 27, 2024. ==Marketing==
Marketing
A teaser trailer was released on April 10, 2024, while Warner Bros. screened a presentation at the 2024 CinemaCon, being promoted by Phillips. It features a cover by Sammy Davis Jr. and Tom Jones of the song "What the World Needs Now Is Love" (1965). Christi Carras from Los Angeles Times said the film's presentation as a musical adhered to a trend where movie studios seemed reluctant to promote their films as musicals, citing Wonka (2023) and Mean Girls (2024) as examples. Writing for Variety, Rebecca Rubin called the footage "dark and gritty" and highlighted the portrayal of Quinn as being Fleck's "demented muse". TheWraps Jeremy Fuster and Stephanie Kaloi described the trailer as focusing on Quinn and Fleck's "wild, destructive love". The trailer gained 167million views in 24hours, being the biggest trailer premiere by Warner Bros. at the time, having surpassed that of the first trailer for Barbie (2023). Phillips said he originally intended to shoot a trailer for the in-universe television film about Arthur Fleck's story mentioned in the film, confirming that it starred Ethan Chase, Justin Theroux's character from the first film, having planned for Theroux to reprise the role to shoot it. Plans for the trailer were scrapped due to time. ==Release==
Release
Joker: Folie à Deux had its world premiere at the 81st Venice International Film Festival on September 4, 2024. Warner Bros. insiders claim that the studio didn't want to premiere the film in that festival as they had done back in 2019 with Joker, but Phillips pushed back until they accepted, though a spokesperson said Warner fully supported the decision to screen the film in Venice. Following the success of Oppenheimer (2023) and Dune: Part Two (2024) in the format, Joker: Folie à Deux was released in the IMAX 15-perforation 70 mm film format to eleven venues worldwide. Home media Joker: Folie à Deux was released on digital on October 29, 2024. ==Reception==
Reception
Box office Joker: Folie à Deux grossed $58.3million in the United States and Canada, and $149.2million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $207.5million. In April 2025, Deadline Hollywood calculated the film lost the studio $144.25 million, when factoring together all expenses and revenues. Five weeks ahead of release, Boxoffice Pro projected that the film would "easily" gross at least $100million in its opening weekend in the United States and Canada and outgross its predecessor's debut of $96.2million, with estimates at $115–145million despite it receiving mixed reviews at Venice like its predecessor. Two weeks after, projections dropped to $70million, and the week of release, estimates became $55–60million. Several outlets compared the film's opening weekend gross to that of other recent high-profile box office bombs The Marvels (2023) and Madame Web (2024), noting that Folie à Deuxs own debut made less than either. Deadline Hollywood attributed the opening to fans of the original not wanting to see a musical. Jeff Goldstein, the studio's president of domestic distribution, acknowledged the film's performance in an article in The Wall Street Journal, mentioning that the sequel was a "deeper dive into mental illness" and making guesses about some of the film's core audience (particularly males) struggling to connect with this new direction for the character of Lee. Wall Street financial analyst Dan Ives deemed the film a "black eye" for Warner Bros. at a key time, with the industry having expected the film to be a hit. Variety also attributed the film's underperformance to Bradley Cooper's lack of participation on it with his commercial instincts unlike its predecessor, as Cooper dissolved his producing partnership with Phillips in 2021.'' The film's second weekend gross fell below the debut of Terrifier 3 (2024), an independent horror movie, which topped the box office in its opening weekend at number one. The following weekend the film lost 1,245 theaters and made $2.2 million, dropping another 69% and finishing in sixth. A source close to the production deemed the release a "complete audience rejection". Another described it as "a very expensive art film" whose intended audience was Phoenix. According to another source, Phillips spent the weekend release of Folie à Deux secluded on a ranch property he owns. while those surveyed by PostTrak gave the film a 40% overall positive score—an average rating of out of 5 stars—with "a very low" 24% saying they would definitely recommend it. William Bibbiani of TheWrap gave the film a positive review, writing that it was "the most interesting film about Arthur Fleck. It's genuinely a little daring, genuinely a little challenging, and genuinely a little genuine". Geoffrey Macnab of The Independent described the film as "deeply unsettling". In his four stars out of five review for The Daily Telegraph, Robbie Collin lauded the film for its musical numbers and Phillips for "stay[ing] true to the project's nihilistic ethos," while noting Gaga was "magnetic but underused". Rafa Sales Ross of The Playlist echoed similar thoughts on the use of Gaga but enjoyed Phoenix "in a much more contained turn, a welcome change to those put off by the constant, annoyingly loud cackling that permeated much of the previous installment". In a retrospective review, David Caballero of Collider lauded Storrie's performance in the film, calling him possibly the film's "one redeeming grace": "In Folie à Deux, Storrie proves he can do it, stealing the movie from its Oscar-winning star with fewer than five minutes of screentime." Peter Bradshaw of The Guardian gave Folie à Deux three out of five. He praised the opening, the supporting cast and the "real spark" in the first encounter between the two protagonists, but wrote that "the whole movie finally turns out to be oppressively, claustrophobically and repetitively becalmed in that oddly unreal Gotham-universe jail with Phoenix and Gaga kept apart for long periods". Bradshaw found that "Phoenix's own performance is as single-note as before, though certainly as forceful and his screen presence is potent" and that Gaga "brings a sly and manipulative malice" to her character. In a mixed review for KQED-FM, Jack Coyle wrote: "Laudable as the intentions of Folie à Deux may be, it feels thoughtfully but tiresomely stuck in the past". In a negative review for ABC News, Luke Goodsell wrote: "That Joker was intended as a standalone movie is evident from the new sequel ... a quasi-musical courtroom drama that has little interest in advancing any kind of story. In fact, it's even more deliberately obtuse and anti-crowd-pleasing than its predecessor". USA Today reported that the negative reviews "argued the musical numbers are underwhelming and Gaga's talents are not well-utilized". Manohla Dargis of The New York Times stated the film was "such a dour, unpleasant slog that it is hard to know why it was made or for whom," and that "Phoenix's sour frown, the movie's barely-there story, its unrelenting grimness and its commitment to forced eccentricity suggest that no one involved was really stoked to make it". David Ehrlich of IndieWire gave a scathing review, stating the film "perversely denies audiences everything they've been conditioned to want from it; gently at first, and then later with the unmistakable hostility of a knife to the gut," and that "its turgid symphony of unexpected cameos, mournful cello solos, and implied sexual violence is too dissonant to appreciate even on its own terms". Spencer Kornhaber of The Atlantic lamented that the film has "nothing interesting to say about the challenge of fame [and feels like] punish[ment] for the crime of wanting to be entertained". Justin Clark of Slant Magazine gave the film one out of four, writing that "Folie à Deuxs attempt at showcasing cleverness, verve, or engagement is held cruelly underwater by staid direction, shoddy emotional plotting, a gleeful sense of cruelty, and a grave nihilism that makes Zack Snyder's work seem like a season of Bluey". Kyle Smith of The Wall Street Journal said, "The falloff in quality from Joker, a genuinely searing innovation in comic-book movies, to this one is so steep that it's comparable to the dropoff between The Hangover (2009) and The Hangover Part II (2011)". David Rooney of The Hollywood Reporter found the film "frustrating" and its plot "a little thin and at times dull", and disliked how the film "all but neutralizes [the Joker]" and "reduces the archvillain to a hollowed-out product of childhood trauma and mental illness". Owen Gleiberman of Variety also criticized its plot, deeming it "overly cautious" and lacking in execution. He found Gaga, with her "lovely unforced presence", was "drastically underused ... Her Lee never quite takes wing". Themes and analysis Critics noted that the film was a work of metafiction designed to intentionally antagonize audiences who were fans of the first film. Rather than capitulating to the expectations of the predecessor's fanbase that Arthur would fully embrace his Joker persona and go on to become Batman's archenemy, the film serves to rebuke those who idolized the character of the Joker. As a deliberate anti-audience effort, the film pushes against the notion of fan service, instead creating a self-aware narrative that is a commentary on its own existence. The film features off-key musical sequences that contrast with fan expectations following the original film; during one such scene, Joker acknowledges, "I don't think we're giving the people what they want". By the end of the film, Arthur is pleading with Lee to stop singing, a sentiment expected to be shared by the audience. Lee Quinzel can be viewed as a stand-in for audiences who were fans of the first film, with her comments about becoming obsessed with Joker after having seen a TV movie based on his life. The finale where Arthur's crimes are trialed and he is made to seem sad and pathetic represents an effort by Phillips to subvert and undermine audiences who had seen Arthur as heroic in the first film, Likewise, Arthur renouncing his Joker persona before being unceremoniously killed by a younger inmate, implied to be the Joker whom Bruce Wayne will go on to fight as Batman, has been interpreted as a deliberate attempt by the filmmakers to disappoint audiences, subversively denying fans their desire for a heroic or sympathetic narrative. Ultimately, the metafiction reflects Arthur's characterization; just as his society only cares for him for what he represents as Joker and rejects him when he renounces that persona, so does the audience reject Arthur. As a result, many said the film is a "very expensive punch line" for the same audiences who saw the first film, Director Quentin Tarantino, a fan of the film, noted its indebtedness to his own screenplay for Natural Born Killers (1994). In an interview with Bret Easton Ellis he said that "As the guy who created Mickey and Mallory, I loved what they did with it. I loved the direction he took. The whole movie was the fever dream of Mickey Knox". He also sees similarities to the film Peter Ibbetson (1935), based on the George du Maurier novel of the same name. He said, "It follows its storyline pretty almost exactly". Accolades ==Notes==
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