Albert Speer recounted a 1941 episode in his
post-war memoirs wherein he observed Hitler's early ruminations about the Urals.
Soviet Foreign Minister,
Vyacheslav Molotov,
travelled to Berlin in mid-November 1940 to discuss
German–Soviet relations with Hitler and
German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop. By then, Hitler had made up his mind that he would attack the Soviet Union the following spring, having already issued orders for a
military plan which would later become
Operation Barbarossa. A few months later, an army adjutant pointed out to Speer an ordinary pencil line which Hitler had drawn on
his globe at the
Berghof, running north–south along the Ural mountains, signifying the future boundary of Germany's
sphere of influence with that of
Japan. He confirmed this objective, but emphasised that the primary goal was to "eradicate
Bolshevism", and that, if necessary, further military campaigns would be carried out to ensure this. He expressed his belief that it would be impossible for Stalin to retake Europe from
Siberia, comparing it to himself hypothetically retaking Germany if he were driven back to
Slovakia, and that the German invasion of the Soviet Union which was then under way would "bring about the
downfall of the
Soviet Empire". On 16 September 1941, Hitler mentioned to
Otto Abetz, the German ambassador in Paris, that "the new Russia as far as the Urals" would become Germany's
India, but that due to its geographic proximity to Germany was far more favorably located for the Germans than India was for Britain. In the above-mentioned conference of 16 July 1941, it was codified as policy that in order to "secure the safety of the [Third] Reich" no non-German military power would ever again be allowed west of the Urals (including non-Russian native
militias), even if it meant war for the next hundred years. No organised Russian state would also be allowed to exist west of this line, which Hitler clarified as actually meaning a line 200–300 km east of the mountains,
"Living wall" Hitler later rejected the mountains as an adequate border, calling it absurd that "these middle-sized mountains" represented the boundary between the "European and Asiatic worlds", stating that one might as well accord that title to one of the large
Russian rivers. He explained that only a "living [racial] wall" of Aryan fighters would do as a frontier, and that keeping a
permanent state of war present in the east was necessary to "preserve the vitality of the race". The theme of a "living wall" was used by Hitler as early as
Mein Kampf (published 1925–1926). In it he presented the future German state under
National Socialist rule as a "father's house" (
Vaterhaus), a safe place which would keep in the
"right human elements", and keep out those which were undesirable. On 10 December 1942 (as the
Battle of Stalingrad was turning unfavourably against the Germans), he told
Anton Mussert, a
Dutch Nazi collaborator, that the "Asiatic waves were threatening to overrun Europe and exterminate the higher races", and that this threat could only be countered by wall-building and long-term fighting. He indicated that this design was also to be used for defence purposes at Germany's "ultimate eastern border deep within Russia" — if the Axis had completely defeated the Soviets, there might have existed the possibility of any remnant Soviet forces or Japanese forces from the northwesterly mainland Siberian-located extremities of Imperial Japan's Co-Prosperity Sphere attempting to cross such a frontier westwards. ==Related plans==